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06 December 2011 @ 11:40 am
Top Ten Episodes of Doctor Who (According to Me) #6-10  
My top five episodes were really easy to choose, but numbers 6-10 were a LOT harder, so here's a list of some episodes that almost made the final cut.

Honorable mentions: School Reunion. I REALLY enjoy this episode and I cannot understand people who use this episode to hate on Rose. She was not the only one acting petty and immature in this episode, and I think her attitude in this episode makes a lot of sense given that the Doctor didn't talk about his past companions at all. But the reason I love this episode is because it's so much fun to see Sarah Jane again, Mickey is used to good effect, and I DON'T EVEN CARE I LOVE K-9. I thought his relationship with Four back in Classic Who was a lot of fun, so I like that he got to make an appearance on New Who. Plus, the villain is Giles! In this episode the plot is only so-so, but the character stuff is so strong, I don't really mind.

New Earth. Mostly I love this episode because it gave David and Billie a chance to show off their comedic acting chops which isn't something either of them really got to do much of during their tenure on Doctor Who. Also? CAT NUNS!

The Shakespeare Code. Yesss this episode is so much fun. Martha is a Harry Potter fan! She uses "EXPELLIARMUS" TO SAVE THE DAY. How awesome is that? I'm also a big Shakespeare fan, so seeing this fictional version of him is a lot of fun as are all the references to his works. And the cherry on top of all this is Ten's Rose!angst. Love it.

#10 Army of Ghosts/Doomsday by Russel T Davis

Some people who know me might be surprised that this isn't higher on the list, but let me explain. The perfect episode of Doctor Who hits all the right emotional and character notes as well as having an engaging plot. This two parter succeeds on the emotional and character front, but the plot itself isn't mind blowing in its own right. I mean the Cybermen and Daleks fighting is funny and all, but really the plot is just there to serve the character points that RTD wanted to hit. But because David and Billie are just SO brilliant in the last 15 minutes of Doomsday, I couldn't help but include this episode on my Top Ten Episodes.

These episodes just go for the jugular when it comes to emotions and from a character POV it is the perfect end to the series 2 Doctor/Rose story. Rose wasn't planning on leaving the Doctor. She'd found what she wanted to do with her life, and she wasn't going to give that up, so RTD had to forcibly separate them. The Doctor thinks he's doing what is best for Rose when he tries to send her to Pete's World with Jackie, but Rose knows what she wants and what she wants is to be with the Doctor and to see all of space and time. The Doctor FINALLY gets to a place where he really believes that Rose isn't going to leave him and then he loses her.

The final scene on Bad Wolf Bay is heart wrenching, and there is just so much good writing and acting going on there. The heartbreaking thing about that scene is imagining that when Rose gets there, she probably thinks she's going back with the Doctor. She's pack up all her stuff to hop back in the Tardis. But she can't. So instead this is her last chance to talk to him. You can see both Rose and the Doctor trying to keep it together. Rose jokes with the Doctor about still working in a shop and the Doctor tries to pretend that he's going to be alright all on his own. But Rose cracks first. She can't let the Doctor go without telling him she loves him, so she manages to choke out an "I love you", but before the Doctor can pluck up the courage to do the same, the gap in the universes closes and the two are separated forever (as far as they know).

#9 Partners in Crime by Russel T Davies

This episode is just a delight to watch. The idea behind the adipose is pretty great. Like, that is a diet plan that ACTUALLY works... as long as the people running it don't panic and trigger the complete parthenogenesis. But if you just want to lose some weight, giving your extra fat for the creation of adorable little alien babies isn't really a bad plan.

Anyway, I love this episode because it's just so much fun. All the near misses between Donna and the Doctor that take place during the first half of the episode are totally cliche comedy bits, but it's cliche in that really comfortable way. It's like watching old reruns of I Love Lucy. Then of course you have the miming scene and it's just pure brilliance. Catherine Tate is really just fabulous in this episode.

But I think this episode does manage to do some small bits of good character stuff too. We see that Donna wasn't able to translate her experiences in "The Runaway Bride" into the kind of adventuresome life she'd hoped for because it's not as easy at it seems. But I actually think the most important character bit we get in this episode comes from Ten. He admits that he screwed things up with Martha, and at the end when Donna comes along with him he admits that he needs a mate. That's what I love about Ten. He needs friends. He needs other people. He doesn't do well alone.

And of course, the ending with Rose! RTD and co did an impressive job of keeping Billie's appearance in this episode a secret so when I saw her at the end of the episode, I was appropriately shocked.

#8 Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways by Russel T Davies

These episodes were a brilliant way to end the first series. Firstly, I really enjoy the reality TV spoofs in "Bad Wolf". Sure, it's a heavy handed "look at how obsessed with TV our culture is!" but it's still pretty funny. Also, the Doctor's reaction when he thinks Rose is dead pulls at the heart strings. He just goes to stone on the inside. Rose has really come to mean SO much to the Doctor. In the end, he willingly gives up a regeneration in order to save her life.

"The Parting of the Ways" contains my favorite Rose moment. That speech she gives in the cafe about fighting for what is right and not giving up and letting life happen is brilliant and the perfect cap to her series 1 arc. Then of course you have Bad Wolf!Rose which brings me to the other thing I love about this episode. THIS is a time loop done right. "Bad Wolf" was in the back ground the entire time, so Rose was always meant to look into the heart of the Tardis. But she doesn't know it. She's not just acting out bits from a script. Her actions aren't limited because she is aware of pre-established timelines that she can't mess with. She doesn't get easy or automatic answers because she's already done something. She's still completely acing of her own free will, making decisions, and being proactive. It just so happens that she DOES create herself, leading to the time loop.

#7 Father’s Day by Paul Cornell

Ok, so the actual sci-fi plot with the scavengers eating people isn't all that compelling, but this episode is PERFECT from an emotional and character standpoint. The fight that the Doctor and Rose have feels so completely real. You can tell how hurt the Doctor is by the idea that maybe Rose just wanted to travel with him to save her dad and that maybe she was just using him. That's got to hurt because Rose is the first person he's let into his life since the Time War. Then from Rose's point of view she had the opportunity to SAVE HER DAD. How could she pass that up?

So that fight just hurts because it's so accurate and the Doctor and Rose know how to say the things that will really hurt the other person. It's a painful fight. But in spite of that, the Doctor does everything he can to save the day without Pete dying again. In the end though, there is no way around it and Pete has to die so that everyone else can live. The final conversation between Rose and Pete is utterly heartbreaking and has been known to make me cry. Pete has to die, but this time Rose can be there for him, holding his hand so he doesn't have to be alone.

#6 The Girl Who Waited by Tom MacRae

This is the only episode from series 6 that I well and truly love. I really like both "The Doctor's Wife" and "The God Complex", but "The Girl Who Waited" is the only episode that made me want to watch it again immediately after I finished the episode. Everything just falls together pretty magnificently.

As a framing device, the idea of the two time streams moving at different speeds so that people dying of a disease that kills them in a day could live a full life is REALLY clever. It does a great job of setting up the old!Amy bit, but it also makes the danger of the robots with the anesthesia hands who will inject her with medicine that will kill her a believable and real threat to Amy's safety.

Rory is pretty great in this episode, proving that he is the Ultimate Hufflepuff. He's super loyal to both Amys and gets rightfully mad at the Doctor for his unjust fuckery and lies. The moment where Rory chews Eleven out so satisfying. Plus, Arthur Davill looks good in glasses.

But the thing that is wonderful about this episode is Amy. Amy is a character that I've had a lot of trouble getting a hold of. I've felt like there were all these somewhat related threads that made up her character, but they were like wet noodles and I could never get a firm grasp on her. But this episode really took her to character places that I'd been wanting the show to take her her since the beginning of series 5. I loved seeing an angry version of Amy. I LOVED seeing all the times she's been abandoned by the Doctor pay off in this way. I mean, I don't want Amy to be angry and bitter her whole life, but seeing even this alternate version of Amy express some negative emotions for the Doctor after everything that being friends with him has put her through (abandoned at 8, and then again at ~20. Also being used by an evil religious-military organization as an incubator and then having her baby stolen from her.) was incredibly gratifying to me.

And then there's that scene with Rory and Amy on opposite sides of the Tardis door (you know, after the Doctor is a dick and decides that older!Amy isn't real!Amy but makes Rory pull the trigger). So heartbreaking. Older!Amy wants to give her younger self to be happy, a opportunity that she didn't have. But it's still hard to do, so Rory has to be the strong one and let this version of his wife die.
 
 
 
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Queen of the Castlejessicaqueen on December 6th, 2011 08:18 pm (UTC)
the villain is Giles! In this episode the plot is only so-so, but the character stuff is so strong, I don't really mind.

These two things sum up my feelings on School Reunion. Tony Head makes for a creepy and nicely animalistic villain, y/y?

When I'm writing these types of lists myself, I generally count double eps as a single entity. When it comes to Doomsday, though, I separate it. The two eps put together are more of a single story than some of the multi-eps, sure, but it's only Doomsday that I really love out of those two. You're absolutely right about the plot issues, as well. I just ignore that, mostly, in favour of the so-very-pretty sadness.

Ok, so the actual sci-fi plot with the scavengers eating people isn't all that compelling, but this episode is PERFECT from an emotional and character standpoint.

If you reword this so that 'scavengers eating people' is replaced with [insert alien menace here], this is pretty much true of all Paul Cornell's stuff, no? He really is better at emotion than plot. Or, you know, logic.
fauxkarenfauxkaren on December 6th, 2011 08:46 pm (UTC)
I watched School Reunion before I watched Buffy so although I knew that Tony Head was Giles, I didn't fully appreciate him in "School Reunion" until after I watched Buffy. But now I find myself wishing that we'd gotten an episode where Giles turns evil.
Queen of the Castlejessicaqueen on December 6th, 2011 08:50 pm (UTC)
IKR? I'm pretty sure I remember hearing something about Tony Head pretty much begging Joss to let him be evil for a bit, but it somehow never happened. WHY NOT JOSS? WHY NOT?
Opal: TSP: I believe in her!shinyopals on December 6th, 2011 08:30 pm (UTC)
I actually legit love the plot of Doomsday. Like, I would watch it a hundred times over if it weren't for ALL THE SADNESS. XD

And I AM SHOCKED AND APPALLED to see s6 making it anywhere on the list, but The Girl Who Waited was damn good, it's gotta be said. Also Rory and Amy calling out Eleven for being a douche ranks pretty high for me.
fauxkarenfauxkaren on December 6th, 2011 08:40 pm (UTC)
Idk. To me Doomsday is pretty generic "Daleks try to take over and/or destroy the world again. Also, Cybermen!". I find the whole ghost/footprint doesn't look like a shoe thing to be somewhat interesting as well as Torchwood's involvement in the whole debacle. But the plot still isn't AMAZING. It's just good enough to support and not take away from the brilliant character stuff that is happening in the episode. So it does its job, I guess.

TGWW is SO GOOD THOUGH. I wish I could take it away from the horror that is the rest of series 6. I am pretty sure that half the reason I love it is because Amy and Rory call Eleven out for being an ass. But like, it's a clever and pretty original plot, and the character stuff is on-point! I love it! (lol It's also the only Moffat Who episode that made it anywhere on my Top Ten list).
Opal: TSS: Smiling Doctorshinyopals on December 6th, 2011 08:44 pm (UTC)
Lol I am a sucker for Daleks, tbh. I love Daleks taking over the world, and parallel universe shenanigans, and the whole Ghosts and Torchwood thing. But mostly Daleks.

I think the only place where TGWW is lacking is that IT'S SO ALONE. All the character stuff is brill but THERE IS VERY LITTLE FOLLOW THROUGH. I mean, that's not the fault of the episode itself, which is pretty flawless, but it colours my perception of it and means every time I say "fantastic episode" I also have to add "BUT...".

Tbh though, it's my favourite Amy moment hands down.
fauxkarenfauxkaren on December 6th, 2011 08:48 pm (UTC)
The lack of follow through is sad. I mean, it makes sense because young!Amy obviously wouldn't remember anything older!Amy had been though. But I wish we had seen her be angry with the Doctor's actions later and I wish that this had contributed to HER choosing to leave at the end of The God Complex. But we do a bit a bit of follow through from Rory in TGC when he refers to his time with the Doctor in the past tense.
Opal: TUatW: Doctor and Donna hiding in the bushinyopals on December 6th, 2011 08:50 pm (UTC)
I feel like part of TGWW was also Rory really, really losing his shit with the Doctor, and then TGC was Amy losing her faith, so it would have been super awesome for them to have decided together that THEY ARE FED UP OF THIS BS. Instead... nothing.
only arceus can have a perfect blog: i'd always bring her home.spud14 on December 6th, 2011 09:10 pm (UTC)
AND YET AMY STILL MANAGED TO KEEP HER HAIR PROPERLY CONDITIONED.

and that is why she is a hero.
fauxkarenfauxkaren on December 6th, 2011 09:24 pm (UTC)
Amy's hair truly is an inspiration to us all.
kilodaltonkilodalton on December 6th, 2011 11:02 pm (UTC)
And her brows stay perfectly tweezed!!!!
Her Eminence the Very Viscountessbreathingbooks on December 6th, 2011 09:35 pm (UTC)
and I cannot understand people who use this episode to hate on Rose. She was not the only one acting petty and immature in this episode

Eh, I thought they were all acting badly for a while. That episode really pissed me off at RTD, actually. Two women fighting over a guy and then bonding over how he's just a silly man - bah. I also hated the specifics of the speech Sarah Jane gives Rose. I think it's how you feel about Moffat in general - all this stuff that could have been good or fine but was just made so sexist and stupid...
fauxkarenfauxkaren on December 9th, 2011 05:49 pm (UTC)
Sorry for taking foreeever to reply, but I wanted to take some time to think about my feelings on School Reunion so I could explain why I don't find it problematic.

I think that there was a bit more to Rose's reaction in this episode than just the stuff with the Doctor. I think Rose was extra tetchy in this episode because she'd just spent the past three days getting up close and personal look at what her life could had been had she not met the Doctor. In the first episode of the series after the Doctor blows up the shop she worked at, Mickey or Jackie (can't remember which) suggest that Rose try to get a job working at the canteen in the hospital, so working as a dinner lady in a school is the kind of job that Rose could have looked forward to before she met the Doctor and he opened her eyes to the rest of the universe. In that context, traveling with the Doctor is what is giving her a direction in life. When she meets Sarah Jane, Rose is suddenly confronted with the fact that maybe this life isn't forever. To her it seems like the Doctor just left Sarah Jane behind and never even thinks about her anymore, and the fact that this might now happen to Rose is terrifying to her, especially since she just spent the last three days working at the kind of job she was looking forward to in her old life. THAT'S why she's tetchy and insecure in this episode and gets into petty argument with Sarah Jane. And I think this is shown by the fact that the conversation Rose and the Doctor have in the parking lot isn't a "do you love me?" conversation. It's a "are you going to just leave me behind?" conversation.

So while this is about the Doctor because he is the catalyst in both Rose and Sarah Jane's life, it's not about him as a man, but about him as the central protagonist to the show who travels in time and space and is also male.

The idea of the Doctor as an experience vs the Doctor as a man in this episode is further supported by Sarah Jane's story in this episode. She put her life on hold, waiting to travel with the Doctor again. There was nothing even remotely romantic between the Doctor and Sarah Jane when they traveled together, so that's not why she couldn't move on. (The reason SARAH is tetchy and petty in this episode is that she's been waiting for the Doctor and now sees that he's just moved on without her and left her behind, not because she's competing for the Doctor romantically.) She was having trouble moving on because she had seen the stars and didn't know what to do with herself now that she was back on Earth. This is resolved by the end of the episode where she realizes that she can save the world and do similar Doctor-type stuff on her own spin-off show on Earth, now that she has a purpose and isn't waiting around for the Doctor anymore.

Regarding what Sarah Jane says to Rose at the end, I think what she says "Yes. Some things are worth getting your heart broken for." is MUCH less problematic to me than what Reinette says to the Rose ("But you and I both know, don't we, Rose? The Doctor is worth the monsters.") Sarah Jane is saying that the EXPERIENCES of traveling with the Doctor (and to me, this is very clear because Rose and Sarah's one-up-man-ship of the things they've seen) is worth the possibility of getting your heart broken by leaving the Doctor later. Reinette on the other hand is saying that THE DOCTOR HIMSELF is worth the scary monsters.

Edited at 2011-12-09 05:50 pm (UTC)
Her Eminence the Very Viscountessbreathingbooks on December 9th, 2011 07:35 pm (UTC)
I'd agree there was definitely the element of Rose facing what her life would've been (would be?) like sans Doctor. That part worked for me. I actually wish that instead of Rose and the Doctor in wuv twu wuv we'd gotten Rose attempting to deliberately up her skill set while with Ten. I think I might have loved her if after this episode she'd drawn up an educational chart or something. It also would've made that inane tripe in S4 a hell of a lot more believable (and it could've been, but it needed considerably more set-up.

There were other vibes though - not so much in the straightforward cafeteria scenes as in her bitch-fights with Sarah Jane - that did set off vibes of a different sort. Fairly or not, I think comparison to a romantic scene is inevitable for a lot of people when faced with two women who are arguing basically about (1) who's had the cooler time with a man (2) who the man likes more. The Sarah Jane and Rose bonding scene also has strong parallels to the sorts of romantic comedy stories where 2 women (often the ex and the current significant other) end up unexpectedly bonding and then the guy comes in and is afraid of their combined power, etc. To someone who's read a lot of romances and watched them it was a very close match, so close that I'd find it very hard to believe it was coincidental on the part of the writers.

Also, for new!Who fans, this was the first time we'd seen Sarah Jane. From that pov I read her as quite likely pining over the Doctor (because, let's be honest, at that point what companion reference do we have? pining Rose and - since I'd skipped ahead - pining Martha).

I can't find the quote I referenced, but it's not the one you mentioned (I have no problem with that end line - or with Reinette's really since adventures and the Doctor are an inseparable package deal). I think the one I want happens after Rose and Sarah Jane are trying to one-up each other, and Sarah Jane says something moronic like how Rose is just as smart as the doctor, blah blah blah.

No. No. No. Rose is not an idiot, but she's not as smart as the Doctor (I'm not either). And that is ok. Sometimes being smart is not the most important thing! Sometimes it actually screws you over! Rose has strengths! But it was just so condescendingly stupid on the part of SJ and then it made Rose look stupid to accept it. :/
jal80jal80 on December 6th, 2011 10:13 pm (UTC)
Oh, God, in "Father's Day" when Pete asks Rose, "Who am I, sweetheart?" and she can BARELY choke out, "You're my daddy," I cry EVERY. TIME. Billie was so fabulous...
fauxkarenfauxkaren on December 7th, 2011 12:06 am (UTC)
Billie just has a special ability to make me cry. WHY DO YOU USE YOUR POWERS FOR EVIL, BILLIE?
kem_viva: Lokikem_viva on December 6th, 2011 10:36 pm (UTC)
I loved Partners in Crime, probably one of the funnest episodes of Doctor Who ever. And the fat babies are so freaking cute lol.

I totally forgot about Fathers Day, but that was a great episode for the reasons you said.
fauxkarenfauxkaren on December 7th, 2011 05:11 am (UTC)
There are so many funny moment in Partners in Crime, like the Doctor popping his head over the cubicle partition.

Father's Day is probably easy to forget because it's not a bombastic finale and it's not an especially memorable plot. But Billie just knocks it out of the park and it punches me in the grief bone.
kilodaltonkilodalton on December 6th, 2011 11:05 pm (UTC)
Nice list!

but really the plot is just there to serve the character points that RTD wanted to hit.

And voila the difference between Moffat and RTD. For Moffat, invert this sentence. =\
fauxkarenfauxkaren on December 7th, 2011 05:13 am (UTC)
Precisely. I mean, I don't begrudge people who prefer plot driven shows over character driven shows which is why even if I don't agree, I could understand why people preferred series 5 to RTD's era. But when Moffat loses the thread with the plot everything goes to crap because he doesn't have the characters to hold the show up.
phoenixrising06: dw- amy hair pornphoenixrising06 on December 6th, 2011 11:59 pm (UTC)
I think AoG/Doomsday would place similarly for me. The character stuff is heartbreaking, but I can't take Daleks seriously for the life of me, so basically it's just me experiencing secondhand embarrassment for two episodes until the meaty stuff starts going down.

I want to see the adventures of Old!Amy so badly.
fauxkarenfauxkaren on December 7th, 2011 05:14 am (UTC)
An irl friend of my watched Doomsday last week and she was so upset over it that she still hasn't moved on to watch "The Runaway Bride" yet. Doomsday just will break you but it's SO good that I'll overlook that standard plot.
phoenixrising06: da- the sistersphoenixrising06 on December 7th, 2011 07:37 am (UTC)
Hah, I did that with Journey's End, then again with the End of Time. This show, man.

Manda (formerly known as springhaze23): DW Bad Wolf TARDISmandamanda on December 7th, 2011 01:37 am (UTC)
This is springhaze23 with a fancy new username, fyi
This is an awesome list, mostly because I agree with just about all of it.

I have such love for Doomsday simply because of the last 15 minutes. Screw the Daleks and Cybermen, they're freaking boring at this point.

I think I would put The Doctor's Wife above TGWW on my list, though.
fauxkarenfauxkaren on December 7th, 2011 05:20 am (UTC)
Re: This is springhaze23 with a fancy new username, fyi
Guh. The last 15 minutes of Doomsday is perfection. Billie and David sell it so well and s;dlkfjdsl;k ALL OF THE EMOTIONS!

I liked The Doctor's Wife a lot, but TGWW was just so satisfying to me because Amy and Rory FINALLY chewed the Doctor out.
Kali: dw :: amy :: i've got your back_thirty2flavors on December 7th, 2011 04:47 am (UTC)
CAN I JUST SAY, DONNA NOBLE IN PARTNERS IN CRIME IS PERFECT/STUNNING/FLAWLESS. Like okay, she had the shove that is TRB, but after one adventure she's figured out how to do this stuff exactly the same as the Doctor -- flashing the health & safety card, inspecting on her own, sensing when something is dodgy, etc. UGH DONNA LET ME LOVE YOU.

Girl Who Waited is so fucking good, love it love it. OLD AMY. AMELIA JESSICA POND I HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE ATTACHED TO YOU. Karen Gillan kills it in that episode, too. Moffat/Matt/everyone promised us seh would and I was a bit wary because while I like Karen a lot she'd never wowed me before, but she really delivered in this episode. Arthur Darvill too -- the TARDIS door scene is heartbreaking.

fauxkarenfauxkaren on December 7th, 2011 06:05 am (UTC)
YEESSS. DONNA IS SO AMAZING IN PARTNERS IN CRIME. I love how proactive she's being about finding the Doctor, investigating places she thinks he might be.

And ITA about Karen Gillan. She hadn't really impressed me much with her acting before TGWW, but she really pulled it out in TGWW. And yeah, Arthur Darvill is great too. It's amazing what these actors can do when they're given good scripts!
sunnytyler001sunnytyler001 on December 7th, 2011 10:43 am (UTC)
Flawless choice! And I agree SO MUCH about School Reunion. Sarah Jane's attitude was quite petty too, but no one seems to blame her.
fauxkarenfauxkaren on December 9th, 2011 03:30 am (UTC)
And really, in the end, it's the Doctor's fault for a)never mentioning Sarah Jane or any of his companions to Rose and then b)handling it poorly with Rose when he DID run into Sarah Jane.
Jessieke85 on December 8th, 2011 09:32 pm (UTC)
Re: A New Earth - I love that episode if only for the squeak in the Doctor's voice right here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIbxlQkqQnA

(forgive the lack of embed... Can't get the code to display from my iPod)
fauxkarenfauxkaren on December 9th, 2011 03:31 am (UTC)
Billie and David are both just hilarious in New Earth. It's one of those episodes that I watch when I need a bit of a pick me up.
Pied: foxy doctorwheatear on December 9th, 2011 11:45 pm (UTC)
All fantastic episodes. I look forward to your top five!
some blockheaded bracegirdle from hardbottle: dw - blue amynotemily on December 11th, 2011 11:06 pm (UTC)
Hee, I love Partners in Crime as well. Donna! And little adorable fat alien babies! The fat just walks away!

Love Arthur's glasses in TGWW.

I obviously have DEEP AND MEANINGFUL COMMENTS.
Danielleanalise010 on April 22nd, 2012 06:31 pm (UTC)
#6 The Girl Who Waited by Tom MacRae
This is the only episode from series 6 that I well and truly love.


Amy got so much hate for so many reasons in fandom, but this episode made me fall in love with her over and over again. I think that what she did here was so much more courageous than what Rory did with the Pandorica.
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